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helloandwelcomedunkeypopularopinions
isafespaceforfansofBTSandotherkpopgroupstoaskthetoughquestion
whatdoithinkofthisimyourhostgingerneuna
andtodayweretalkingabouthowgrowth
nostalgiaandragemaybecontributingtotomorrowbytogetherssuccess
sotomorrowbytogetherhadacomebackthisweek
itwasonaugustseventeenthtotwentytwentyonetheyreleasedarepackagealbum
thisoneiscalledthechaoschapterfightorescape
anditsarepackageofchaoschapterfreeze
andiwouldsaythatitsprettylikelyafterthedreamchaptertrilogy
thatthisisgoingtobeanothertrilogyforthemthatsbasedonfightflightorfreezethereactionthatpeoplehavewhentheyfeelliketheyareindangeratverast
iwasntsureifweweregoingtogothroughwiththewholetrilogythingjustbecausetheyendedupusingumfightforarepackagealbum
butlookingbackatBTSisdiscographythegreatestmomentinlifeseries
theHYYHtrilogy
theirthirdalbumisactuallyarepackage
soitsentirelypossiblethattheyrestillgoingtogoforatrilogywhileusingarepackageandtoregularalbumsbookimnotsurewilljusthavetowaitandsee
butiwanttogoonrecord
andsaythatithinkthenextalbumisgoingtobethechaoschapterflight
sowiththereleaseofchaoschapterfreeze
TXThasfoundthisnewgrowthintheirpopularityumforexampletheyhavebeenonthebillboardtoptwohundredfornineweekstheypickeditnumberfive
andsomethingthatithoughtwasreallycool
wastheyperformedbothmagicandzerobyonelovesongongoodmorningamerica
goodmorningamericaisanamericanobviouslydaytimenewsprogram
andithinkthisisareallybigindicatorofjusthowpopularTXTisbecoming
becausenormallywerelegaterelativelyunknowngroupstolatenightTV
thatssomethingyouremorelikelytoseeonjimie
fwin
jimmye
cmuel
jamescordon
butthefactoftheyhadTXTontwiceforgoodmorningamerica
andoneoftheirsongswasntkorean
asfarasiknowtheonlyothergrouptohavedonethatisBTSImightbewrong
ifiampleaseletmeknow
butthatshuge
andthatjustspeaksvolumesabouthowpopulartxtisbecoming
andipersonallythinkthattherearethreethings
thatarecausingthisincreaseintheirpopularitygrowth
misstalgiaenrage
嗯嗯
ifyourelisteningtothespotifyeditionofthisepisode
youjustheardthesongineedyoubyBTS
andyoureprobablywonderingwhythisisnotABTSpodcast
thisisATXTpodcast
andimdoingittoillustratedpoint
umithinkitsimportantforusinallways
bothartisticallyandeverythingelsetolookbackandlearnfromourhistory
嗯
solookingbackatthehistoryofbighit
BTSwasdoingprettywellduringtheirschooltrilogyanddarkinwilddays
theywerentdoinggreat
buttheyweredoingokay
buttheirfirstrealbumpingpopularitywaswiththereleaseofthesongineedyou
umthatalsogavethem
theirfirstmusic
whenitwasareallybigdealforthemithinktheyevensaythatineedyouisoneofitnotthemostimportantsongsintheirhistory
andithinkineedyouandthemostbeautifulmomentinlictrilogyweresopopular
becausetheyusheredinnewsoundforbeat
yes
umBT
yesasweallknowinitiallystartedasahiphopgroup
andwhilethemusichadsomevariationtoit
itwasstillverymuchhiphoprandbbasedandwiththemostbeautifulmomentinlifeorHYYHseries
theystartedexploringthesoftersoundandumsofterimage
anditwasareallybigsurpriseforpeople
andthatdefinitelyopenthedoorfortheirmoremoreclecticsound
thatweknownowivefeellikewhenwehearBTSnow
嗯
nomatterwhatjonortheychoosewego
oh yeah
thatmakessenseitsABTSsong
theyrenotlikesomegroups
whereyouhearasong
andyouknowimmediatelythatsongbelongstoacertaingroup
youhearasongforBTS
andthenlookbackandlistentowaitandsayohiguess
yeahthatisABTSsong
becausetheyhavesuchanaccticsound
嗯
andthatssomethingthatTXTactuallystartedwiththeyhaditthecolleticcsoundfromthebeginning
thatsomethingicommentedoninepisodetwo
whenimtalkingabouttheirdebowiththedreamchapterstar
andhowithinktherewerefivesongs
butallfivesongshadverydifferentselings
therewasonethatwasreallytrpbased
therewasabalid
therewasthiskind
kindbetiboybandnumber
therewasthesugarypopsongumsothey
theyreallyjusthitallofthesemarksontheirdabyalbum
andinsomeways
ithinkthatthismorematuresoundissomethingthatwecouldhaveinevitablyfoundwithTXT
whentheydebudalittleovertwoyearsago
theywerebrandedasabrighandyouthfulboyband
buttheresonlysolongthatyoucankeepwiththatconcept
umnowtheyarealllegallyadults
ithinkprettymucheverywhereintheworld
andsotheresonlysolongthatyoucandotheboyshconcept
sonowtheyrestartingtomoveintothisolderconcept
andexploringhowtheirworldischangingasyoungadult
sonowthoughTXTstartedwithareallyaclacticsound
itshouldntbeasurprisethattheyarearegoingforamorematuresound
butstillwhathappenedwiththereleaseofzerobyonelovesong
therewasthisabruptconceptchangeandsonicchange
andithinkthiswasoneofthosecatalysts
thatincreasetheirpopularity
sothesecondcatalyst
ithinkthatisfuelingthisnewoundpopularityorincreaseinpopularity
becauseplusmehonestTXThasalwaysbeenpopulartoacertaindegree
buttheirnewfoundpopularityespeciallyoverseaswithanamericanmarket
ithinkabigpartofthatisnostalgia
sothesoundthatTXTisusingthesedaysspecificallyonsongslikezerobyonelovesongandloserloverandfrostthatmightsoundbarelynewandinnovativetojenseybuttomillenenelalswhoarelistening
thisisjustacallbacktoouryouthesthisisveryaveryfamiliarsoundtousatthesoundofpoppunk
thesoundofemail
theseweremainstreamplayedontheradiosoundsthatweheardwhenwewereaboutthesameage
thattheTXTmembersarenow
andithinkoneofthemaindriversofthissoundisactuallyoliviarodridrigoandherpopularity
whenshefirstcameoutwithdriverslicense
driverslicensewashugeandpartofwhatmadedriverslicensesobigwasthatitwasincrediblyrelaatablelyricsarerelatabletopeopleoliviasagewhoareexperiencingthesemoments
butevenmeasanadultwhosemarriedbutpridethefirsttimeihearddriverslicensedbecauseitfeltlikeshewastellingmysong
andithoughtwellmaybeitsjustmemaybeimbeingkindofnostalgicandsilly
butthentherewasaskitonSNLsaturdayalive
ithinkitwasactuallyonoliviviaseighthbirthdayanditsabunchofmidwesternmiddleagedmenhangingoutout
thinkthetheyreootingpoolinabarkanddriverslicensecomeson
andtheyallloseit
theyallknowthissong
theyallrelatetothissong
anditreallywasjustthisliitmustestforhowmuchthissongwastouchingeverybodyatleastintheunitedstates
soaftershedroppeddriverslicense
hernextsinglewasdajavo
andthatstilldidreallywellitwaspopular
thats
thats
wheniactuallyihearthemostoftenonradionowadaysoglyenough
butthethirdsongshereleasedhadthemoststayingpowergoodforyouhasbeeninthetopthreeonthebilboboardtoponeforoverthreemonths
andithinkoneofthereasonsthatthissonghasstayedsolidlyinthattopthreeisthatthissongisntjustbeingenjoyedbyjensee
thissongisbeingenjoyedbyadults
theyaretappingintothatnostalgia
thewaythatoliviaasingsandheronongwritingstyle
itsreallyreminismofallananismorrsadandnodoubtandalittlebitlaterparamore
andijustwasthinkingoftheotherdayofoliviabroddriggowereapokemon
sheislikethebaseform
andthenifsheevolvedtogetalittlestrangerforsomeoneinmygeneration
sheremindsmealotofvirginusspector
andthenifsheevolvedagainfromvirginasspector
shewouldbeyorkandid
justthisreallytalentedinterestingvocals
interestingstory
interestingnarrativethatsheshareswithpeople
andthatsabigthingaboutnostalgia
nostalgiaisjustremindingyouoffeelings
andusuallyitsfeelingsineventsfromyouryouth
becauseyourelookingbackintime
andthetimesthatadultsaremostlikelytohaverosecolorglasses
whenwethinkaboutthemareourchildhoodandyoungadulttimes
andithinkthatssomethingthattxtisdoingsoliketheofficialremixofzerobyonelovessongistheemocoreremix
theyrereallyleaningintothisemosoundsoformewhogrewupiwasreallyinmyexytime
iwasreallyintogoodsharttenewwoungloryavverallevine
ilistentoalotofpoppunkinrock
thisjustmademefeelmystalgichearingthevocalqualities
hearingthelyricsandthestoriesthatarebeingtoldbytxtonthismostrecentalbum
umthefirsttimeiheardzerobyonelovesong
iactuallyfeltliketaayyanwaschannelingtheghostofchesterbenntonum
chesterbeningtonwastheleadssingerfortheamedlincolnpark
butsadlyhetookhisownlifeafewyearsago
buttayyanespeciallyandhumankytoacertainamounthadthesameroughsoundthatchesterhadum
butwithoutsoundinglikehescururtinghimselfwhichisimportantlilistingtothisnewTXxtalbum
andthinkingaboutthispopocastactuallymademesoownnostlogic
icompiledaplaylist
justforitmylisteners
icallitmyragelist
andiveincludedalinkbelowinthedescriptionanditsavailableonspotified
sowhileiwascompilingthisragelistforyouguys
itmademethinkaboutthefeelings
ihadbeenhavingthoseyearsago
andtheeventsthatcausethosefeelings
andformyyoungerlisteners
ifyourelisteningtothispodcast
ithinkyouareoldenoughtohearthis
youregoingtobetoldalotthatitgetsbetter
andimonnatellyouthatitgetsdifferent
andusuallydifferentmeansbetter
butidontwantyoutothinkthatonedayyouregoingtobeagrownup
andeverythingwillmagicallybedifferentandbetteritlljustbedifferent
andithinkwhatalotofadultshavetroublewith
withourinsightisthatallofthewounds
thatmadeushavescarredoversomuchtomakethisscartissue
thatitseasytoforget
howmuchwefeltwhenwewereyourage
soijustwantyoutoknowthatextyteenagersarenotanewthing
butitissomethingthatlikechildbirth
youforgetthepainofwithtimeorelseyouwouldntwanttokeepgoinghonestlyumwheniwasmakingthisragelist
ialsothoughtaboutiamreallygladthatihavesuchagoodtherist
sowhenyoulistentotheragelist
andyouthinkaboutyoungadults
gingertrynottobetooconcernedaboutmeimgooditsallgoodimhappywithmylife
nowum
butthosesongsthatiputonmyragelist
areonesthatiwantedtosharewithyouforyoungerlisteners
ihopetheironesthatspeaktoyou
andthatmaybeencourageyoutoexploretheseartists
theymightbeartist
youveneverheardoftheymightbeartists
thatyounowhearonalltheseradio
oh god
thatsawful
itmightmightbeofthose
thosewhereyourparenrentsACDDthem
themyingaround
but
butdont
donthaveACDplayeranymore
becausethatsjustwhereweregetting
butimhopingthatitssomethingforyou
anditbringssomekindofjoy
andihopeyoufeelseenwhenyoulistentothesesongsformyolderlisteners
whoaremyageandolderwhoareyouknowintheirthirties
ihopethatthisragelistbringsyounostalcha
anditbringsyoujoyinthinkingaboutthepainthatyousurvived
andhowitdidfeelliketheendoftheworld
itfeltlikeyoucouldntgoon
buthereyouare
youdidgoon
andsomesomeofthesesongsontheragelist
thosearewhathelpedyouthrowit
andiwouldlovetoknowwhatsongswillbeonyourbragelist
solistenersfeelfreetosendthosemyway
iamalwaysupforlearningaboutnewbands
oldbands
anyjanuasandinmywayidliketohearitsobasicallyinstimationforthispart
ithinkthebigthingthatweneedtotakeaway
isthatthisnostalgiafactorwassomethingthattxtwasabletotapintoandbytappingintonostalgia
youareinevitablygoingtowideinyouraudience
thethirdcatalystforthisismaybethemostimportantcatalyst
itsthecatalystthatisthestrongestandactually
ithinkallchangecanbeattributedtothiscatalyst
andthatcatalystisragethroughoutthepandemic
nowwewereoverayearintoit
ithinkwecanlookbackatthebeginningofthepandemic
soiwouldcalltwentytwentythebeginningofthepandemicwithjusthowlongitscontinuing
andintwentytwenty
ifeellikealotofthefeelingsuniversallywerefeelingsoffearandfeelingsofsadnessandfeelingsofhopingtofeelconnectedtosomeone
becausewecouldntconnectwithanyone
withtwenty
twentyoneourfeelingschanged
becauseweregettingtired
weregettingtiredofwhatsgoingonwiththepandemic
ithinkagreatwaytolookatit
musicallyisbackintwentytwenty
BTSgaveusdynamite
becausetheywantedtogiveusthisbrighthappy
almostmindlessinthebestwaysongmakeusfeelgood
andforaminutejustmoveon
andthinkaboutsomethingelse
andthenintwentytwentyone
theygaveuspermissiontodance
butwedidntneedpermissiontodance
weneedapermissiontobepissedoff
becauseweresotired
youcouldbepissedoff
becauseyoufollowedalltherulesyouvvacinated
andyouliveinacountry
wherethevacacineisfreeandeasilyavailabletoanyonetwelveororder
andyoupeoplestillwontdoit
youmightbepissedoff
becauseyouliveinacountry
whereyoudonthaveaccesstothevaccine
andfriendsandfamilymembersaredying
andyoulookatthecountry
thathasaccesstothevaccine
anditssayingnotoitthatwouldmakemereallypissed
youcouldalsobepissed
becausethisrandomkpoppodcasterisrailingintoyouaboutgettingthevaccine
andyouknowthatsokay
becausegetthevaccineegetthevaccinethatsmysoapboxmomentforthisepisodeisjustgetthefreakentvaccine
butasyoucanseerageisanundercurrent
ithinkforeveryoneregardlessofyoursituation
orhowyoufeelaboutthepandemic
noonewantsthepandemictostillbehappening
everyonewantsittobeovereveryoneistiredofwhatisgoingonandTXTbycomingoutwiththeseemoalmostpunksongsalikeoliviaradridriowasgoodforyouwasobvioussaidgivingusallpermissiontofeelthefeelingofrage
andhonestlyevenifwewereinapandemic
ithinkfinallyhavingsomemusicthatisbasedinangerandfrustration
wouldstillbringinnewlistenerstotxtbecauseithinkthatissomethingaswomenweoftenhavethisundercurrent
andwehavethesefeelingsofrage
butweretoldwecantexpressthem
weretoldtopushthemdown
weretold
yourjobistobecomeapparent
oryourjobistofocusonyourcareer
butwhicheveroneofthoseyouchoosethentheresgoingtobe
somebodyelsetellingyouthatyouchosethewrongone
andtheyalsotellyou
becauseyoureanadult
youshouldhaveyourshittogether
youshouldhaveyouremotionsincheck
andthatsnotalwaystrue
thatisjustnotthecase
sohavingthispopularmusicthatseasilyaccessible
eventhoughitsbeingsungbyfivemenwhohadimadeverydifferentlifechoices
icouldhavebeentheirmotherumitstillspeakstome
anditstillgavemepermissiontofeelthesefeelings
andithinkthatthatsprettycommonforalotofwomenisbeingabletohaveanoutletforfeelingangry
itssomethingidontalwaystellingmykidtryingtoinstillinthemthatyouremotionsareneverwrong
anditsjustlikethemovieinsideout
youneedtofeelyouremotions
youneedtofeelallofyouremotions
itswhatyouchoosetodoafteracknowlegingthosefeelings
thatswhatsimportantisTXTtheonlykippgroupthatsreallygivingmetheseragevibesabsolutelynotiwouldsaythatyourecontemporiesstraighkidstheyalsojustilistentothemalotatwork
ilistentostraikidsalotatwork
justbecauseevenwhatidontknowtherearelyrics
itjustfeelspowerful
anditfeelslikeicangoandkicksomeasstoday
andthenmynewfavoriteruckygroupjustbealsohasthisrockandrollfeelingandinawayitkindofremindsmeofBTSbackwhentheydid
NO
andeventhoughthatsongwasstillreallyhppoppythemessageiswhatscomingthroughinthisfourthgenenboygroupkpopmusic
wheretheyreusinganemaosoundorarocksound
butitsthesamemessageofquestion
everythingdontlettheworldsquashyousoiwouldsaythatthisisjustthekindofmusic
thateveryoneneedsatthispointtime
andwegotluckythattxtgaveittouswhentheydid
butasthepandemiccontinuestodragonwhoknowswhatthenextphaseofmusicisgoingtobelikeandimcurious
whatdoyouguysthinkwillbethenextkindofmusic
umdoyoualsofeelthesamewaythatidowhereyourefeelingangryoryourefeelingtiredorareyouinadifferentplaceinthepandemic
andifsocanyoupleasetellmehowyougottherebecauseiwouldreallyappreciatethatyoucansendallofthesethoughtsandideastounkpopularopinionspodatgmail
dotcom
andasivementionedbeforeifyouwerelisteningtothespecialspotifyeditionofthisepisode
itstheonethatsaysspotifyappthirteen
yougettolistentothesongsthatitalkedaboutthisepisode
andevenifyoudonthavethatepisodegocheckoutthatspotifyragelist
letmeknowwhatthingsweshouldbeaddingtoit
andlistenersofcoursedontforgettokeepquestioningilltalktonexttime
helloandwelcomedunkeypopularopinions
isafespaceforfansofBTSandotherkpopgroupstoaskthetoughquestion
whatdoithinkofthisimyourhostgingerneuna
andtodayweretalkingabouthowgrowth
nostalgiaandragemaybecontributingtotomorrowbytogetherssuccess
sotomorrowbytogetherhadacomebackthisweek
itwasonaugustseventeenthtotwentytwentyonetheyreleasedarepackagealbum
thisoneiscalledthechaoschapterfightorescape
anditsarepackageofchaoschapterfreeze
andiwouldsaythatitsprettylikelyafterthedreamchaptertrilogy
thatthisisgoingtobeanothertrilogyforthemthatsbasedonfightflightorfreezethereactionthatpeoplehavewhentheyfeelliketheyareindangeratverast
iwasntsureifweweregoingtogothroughwiththewholetrilogythingjustbecausetheyendedupusingumfightforarepackagealbum
butlookingbackatBTSisdiscographythegreatestmomentinlifeseries
theHYYHtrilogy
theirthirdalbumisactuallyarepackage
soitsentirelypossiblethattheyrestillgoingtogoforatrilogywhileusingarepackageandtoregularalbumsbookimnotsurewilljusthavetowaitandsee
butiwanttogoonrecord
andsaythatithinkthenextalbumisgoingtobethechaoschapterflight
sowiththereleaseofchaoschapterfreeze
TXThasfoundthisnewgrowthintheirpopularityumforexampletheyhavebeenonthebillboardtoptwohundredfornineweekstheypickeditnumberfive
andsomethingthatithoughtwasreallycool
wastheyperformedbothmagicandzerobyonelovesongongoodmorningamerica
goodmorningamericaisanamericanobviouslydaytimenewsprogram
andithinkthisisareallybigindicatorofjusthowpopularTXTisbecoming
becausenormallywerelegaterelativelyunknowngroupstolatenightTV
thatssomethingyouremorelikelytoseeonjimie
fwin
jimmye
cmuel
jamescordon
butthefactoftheyhadTXTontwiceforgoodmorningamerica
andoneoftheirsongswasntkorean
asfarasiknowtheonlyothergrouptohavedonethatisBTSImightbewrong
ifiampleaseletmeknow
butthatshuge
andthatjustspeaksvolumesabouthowpopulartxtisbecoming
andipersonallythinkthattherearethreethings
thatarecausingthisincreaseintheirpopularitygrowth
misstalgiaenrage
嗯嗯
ifyourelisteningtothespotifyeditionofthisepisode
youjustheardthesongineedyoubyBTS
andyoureprobablywonderingwhythisisnotABTSpodcast
thisisATXTpodcast
andimdoingittoillustratedpoint
umithinkitsimportantforusinallways
bothartisticallyandeverythingelsetolookbackandlearnfromourhistory
嗯
solookingbackatthehistoryofbighit
BTSwasdoingprettywellduringtheirschooltrilogyanddarkinwilddays
theywerentdoinggreat
buttheyweredoingokay
buttheirfirstrealbumpingpopularitywaswiththereleaseofthesongineedyou
umthatalsogavethem
theirfirstmusic
whenitwasareallybigdealforthemithinktheyevensaythatineedyouisoneofitnotthemostimportantsongsintheirhistory
andithinkineedyouandthemostbeautifulmomentinlictrilogyweresopopular
becausetheyusheredinnewsoundforbeat
yes
umBT
yesasweallknowinitiallystartedasahiphopgroup
andwhilethemusichadsomevariationtoit
itwasstillverymuchhiphoprandbbasedandwiththemostbeautifulmomentinlifeorHYYHseries
theystartedexploringthesoftersoundandumsofterimage
anditwasareallybigsurpriseforpeople
andthatdefinitelyopenthedoorfortheirmoremoreclecticsound
thatweknownowivefeellikewhenwehearBTSnow
嗯
nomatterwhatjonortheychoosewego
oh yeah
thatmakessenseitsABTSsong
theyrenotlikesomegroups
whereyouhearasong
andyouknowimmediatelythatsongbelongstoacertaingroup
youhearasongforBTS
andthenlookbackandlistentowaitandsayohiguess
yeahthatisABTSsong
becausetheyhavesuchanaccticsound
嗯
andthatssomethingthatTXTactuallystartedwiththeyhaditthecolleticcsoundfromthebeginning
thatsomethingicommentedoninepisodetwo
whenimtalkingabouttheirdebowiththedreamchapterstar
andhowithinktherewerefivesongs
butallfivesongshadverydifferentselings
therewasonethatwasreallytrpbased
therewasabalid
therewasthiskind
kindbetiboybandnumber
therewasthesugarypopsongumsothey
theyreallyjusthitallofthesemarksontheirdabyalbum
andinsomeways
ithinkthatthismorematuresoundissomethingthatwecouldhaveinevitablyfoundwithTXT
whentheydebudalittleovertwoyearsago
theywerebrandedasabrighandyouthfulboyband
buttheresonlysolongthatyoucankeepwiththatconcept
umnowtheyarealllegallyadults
ithinkprettymucheverywhereintheworld
andsotheresonlysolongthatyoucandotheboyshconcept
sonowtheyrestartingtomoveintothisolderconcept
andexploringhowtheirworldischangingasyoungadult
sonowthoughTXTstartedwithareallyaclacticsound
itshouldntbeasurprisethattheyarearegoingforamorematuresound
butstillwhathappenedwiththereleaseofzerobyonelovesong
therewasthisabruptconceptchangeandsonicchange
andithinkthiswasoneofthosecatalysts
thatincreasetheirpopularity
sothesecondcatalyst
ithinkthatisfuelingthisnewoundpopularityorincreaseinpopularity
becauseplusmehonestTXThasalwaysbeenpopulartoacertaindegree
buttheirnewfoundpopularityespeciallyoverseaswithanamericanmarket
ithinkabigpartofthatisnostalgia
sothesoundthatTXTisusingthesedaysspecificallyonsongslikezerobyonelovesongandloserloverandfrostthatmightsoundbarelynewandinnovativetojenseybuttomillenenelalswhoarelistening
thisisjustacallbacktoouryouthesthisisveryaveryfamiliarsoundtousatthesoundofpoppunk
thesoundofemail
theseweremainstreamplayedontheradiosoundsthatweheardwhenwewereaboutthesameage
thattheTXTmembersarenow
andithinkoneofthemaindriversofthissoundisactuallyoliviarodridrigoandherpopularity
whenshefirstcameoutwithdriverslicense
driverslicensewashugeandpartofwhatmadedriverslicensesobigwasthatitwasincrediblyrelaatablelyricsarerelatabletopeopleoliviasagewhoareexperiencingthesemoments
butevenmeasanadultwhosemarriedbutpridethefirsttimeihearddriverslicensedbecauseitfeltlikeshewastellingmysong
andithoughtwellmaybeitsjustmemaybeimbeingkindofnostalgicandsilly
butthentherewasaskitonSNLsaturdayalive
ithinkitwasactuallyonoliviviaseighthbirthdayanditsabunchofmidwesternmiddleagedmenhangingoutout
thinkthetheyreootingpoolinabarkanddriverslicensecomeson
andtheyallloseit
theyallknowthissong
theyallrelatetothissong
anditreallywasjustthisliitmustestforhowmuchthissongwastouchingeverybodyatleastintheunitedstates
soaftershedroppeddriverslicense
hernextsinglewasdajavo
andthatstilldidreallywellitwaspopular
thats
thats
wheniactuallyihearthemostoftenonradionowadaysoglyenough
butthethirdsongshereleasedhadthemoststayingpowergoodforyouhasbeeninthetopthreeonthebilboboardtoponeforoverthreemonths
andithinkoneofthereasonsthatthissonghasstayedsolidlyinthattopthreeisthatthissongisntjustbeingenjoyedbyjensee
thissongisbeingenjoyedbyadults
theyaretappingintothatnostalgia
thewaythatoliviaasingsandheronongwritingstyle
itsreallyreminismofallananismorrsadandnodoubtandalittlebitlaterparamore
andijustwasthinkingoftheotherdayofoliviabroddriggowereapokemon
sheislikethebaseform
andthenifsheevolvedtogetalittlestrangerforsomeoneinmygeneration
sheremindsmealotofvirginusspector
andthenifsheevolvedagainfromvirginasspector
shewouldbeyorkandid
justthisreallytalentedinterestingvocals
interestingstory
interestingnarrativethatsheshareswithpeople
andthatsabigthingaboutnostalgia
nostalgiaisjustremindingyouoffeelings
andusuallyitsfeelingsineventsfromyouryouth
becauseyourelookingbackintime
andthetimesthatadultsaremostlikelytohaverosecolorglasses
whenwethinkaboutthemareourchildhoodandyoungadulttimes
andithinkthatssomethingthattxtisdoingsoliketheofficialremixofzerobyonelovessongistheemocoreremix
theyrereallyleaningintothisemosoundsoformewhogrewupiwasreallyinmyexytime
iwasreallyintogoodsharttenewwoungloryavverallevine
ilistentoalotofpoppunkinrock
thisjustmademefeelmystalgichearingthevocalqualities
hearingthelyricsandthestoriesthatarebeingtoldbytxtonthismostrecentalbum
umthefirsttimeiheardzerobyonelovesong
iactuallyfeltliketaayyanwaschannelingtheghostofchesterbenntonum
chesterbeningtonwastheleadssingerfortheamedlincolnpark
butsadlyhetookhisownlifeafewyearsago
buttayyanespeciallyandhumankytoacertainamounthadthesameroughsoundthatchesterhadum
butwithoutsoundinglikehescururtinghimselfwhichisimportantlilistingtothisnewTXxtalbum
andthinkingaboutthispopocastactuallymademesoownnostlogic
icompiledaplaylist
justforitmylisteners
icallitmyragelist
andiveincludedalinkbelowinthedescriptionanditsavailableonspotified
sowhileiwascompilingthisragelistforyouguys
itmademethinkaboutthefeelings
ihadbeenhavingthoseyearsago
andtheeventsthatcausethosefeelings
andformyyoungerlisteners
ifyourelisteningtothispodcast
ithinkyouareoldenoughtohearthis
youregoingtobetoldalotthatitgetsbetter
andimonnatellyouthatitgetsdifferent
andusuallydifferentmeansbetter
butidontwantyoutothinkthatonedayyouregoingtobeagrownup
andeverythingwillmagicallybedifferentandbetteritlljustbedifferent
andithinkwhatalotofadultshavetroublewith
withourinsightisthatallofthewounds
thatmadeushavescarredoversomuchtomakethisscartissue
thatitseasytoforget
howmuchwefeltwhenwewereyourage
soijustwantyoutoknowthatextyteenagersarenotanewthing
butitissomethingthatlikechildbirth
youforgetthepainofwithtimeorelseyouwouldntwanttokeepgoinghonestlyumwheniwasmakingthisragelist
ialsothoughtaboutiamreallygladthatihavesuchagoodtherist
sowhenyoulistentotheragelist
andyouthinkaboutyoungadults
gingertrynottobetooconcernedaboutmeimgooditsallgoodimhappywithmylife
nowum
butthosesongsthatiputonmyragelist
areonesthatiwantedtosharewithyouforyoungerlisteners
ihopetheironesthatspeaktoyou
andthatmaybeencourageyoutoexploretheseartists
theymightbeartist
youveneverheardoftheymightbeartists
thatyounowhearonalltheseradio
oh god
thatsawful
itmightmightbeofthose
thosewhereyourparenrentsACDDthem
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but
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donthaveACDplayeranymore
becausethatsjustwhereweregetting
butimhopingthatitssomethingforyou
anditbringssomekindofjoy
andihopeyoufeelseenwhenyoulistentothesesongsformyolderlisteners
whoaremyageandolderwhoareyouknowintheirthirties
ihopethatthisragelistbringsyounostalcha
anditbringsyoujoyinthinkingaboutthepainthatyousurvived
andhowitdidfeelliketheendoftheworld
itfeltlikeyoucouldntgoon
buthereyouare
youdidgoon
andsomesomeofthesesongsontheragelist
thosearewhathelpedyouthrowit
andiwouldlovetoknowwhatsongswillbeonyourbragelist
solistenersfeelfreetosendthosemyway
iamalwaysupforlearningaboutnewbands
oldbands
anyjanuasandinmywayidliketohearitsobasicallyinstimationforthispart
ithinkthebigthingthatweneedtotakeaway
isthatthisnostalgiafactorwassomethingthattxtwasabletotapintoandbytappingintonostalgia
youareinevitablygoingtowideinyouraudience
thethirdcatalystforthisismaybethemostimportantcatalyst
itsthecatalystthatisthestrongestandactually
ithinkallchangecanbeattributedtothiscatalyst
andthatcatalystisragethroughoutthepandemic
nowwewereoverayearintoit
ithinkwecanlookbackatthebeginningofthepandemic
soiwouldcalltwentytwentythebeginningofthepandemicwithjusthowlongitscontinuing
andintwentytwenty
ifeellikealotofthefeelingsuniversallywerefeelingsoffearandfeelingsofsadnessandfeelingsofhopingtofeelconnectedtosomeone
becausewecouldntconnectwithanyone
withtwenty
twentyoneourfeelingschanged
becauseweregettingtired
weregettingtiredofwhatsgoingonwiththepandemic
ithinkagreatwaytolookatit
musicallyisbackintwentytwenty
BTSgaveusdynamite
becausetheywantedtogiveusthisbrighthappy
almostmindlessinthebestwaysongmakeusfeelgood
andforaminutejustmoveon
andthinkaboutsomethingelse
andthenintwentytwentyone
theygaveuspermissiontodance
butwedidntneedpermissiontodance
weneedapermissiontobepissedoff
becauseweresotired
youcouldbepissedoff
becauseyoufollowedalltherulesyouvvacinated
andyouliveinacountry
wherethevacacineisfreeandeasilyavailabletoanyonetwelveororder
andyoupeoplestillwontdoit
youmightbepissedoff
becauseyouliveinacountry
whereyoudonthaveaccesstothevaccine
andfriendsandfamilymembersaredying
andyoulookatthecountry
thathasaccesstothevaccine
anditssayingnotoitthatwouldmakemereallypissed
youcouldalsobepissed
becausethisrandomkpoppodcasterisrailingintoyouaboutgettingthevaccine
andyouknowthatsokay
becausegetthevaccineegetthevaccinethatsmysoapboxmomentforthisepisodeisjustgetthefreakentvaccine
butasyoucanseerageisanundercurrent
ithinkforeveryoneregardlessofyoursituation
orhowyoufeelaboutthepandemic
noonewantsthepandemictostillbehappening
everyonewantsittobeovereveryoneistiredofwhatisgoingonandTXTbycomingoutwiththeseemoalmostpunksongsalikeoliviaradridriowasgoodforyouwasobvioussaidgivingusallpermissiontofeelthefeelingofrage
andhonestlyevenifwewereinapandemic
ithinkfinallyhavingsomemusicthatisbasedinangerandfrustration
wouldstillbringinnewlistenerstotxtbecauseithinkthatissomethingaswomenweoftenhavethisundercurrent
andwehavethesefeelingsofrage
butweretoldwecantexpressthem
weretoldtopushthemdown
weretold
yourjobistobecomeapparent
oryourjobistofocusonyourcareer
butwhicheveroneofthoseyouchoosethentheresgoingtobe
somebodyelsetellingyouthatyouchosethewrongone
andtheyalsotellyou
becauseyoureanadult
youshouldhaveyourshittogether
youshouldhaveyouremotionsincheck
andthatsnotalwaystrue
thatisjustnotthecase
sohavingthispopularmusicthatseasilyaccessible
eventhoughitsbeingsungbyfivemenwhohadimadeverydifferentlifechoices
icouldhavebeentheirmotherumitstillspeakstome
anditstillgavemepermissiontofeelthesefeelings
andithinkthatthatsprettycommonforalotofwomenisbeingabletohaveanoutletforfeelingangry
itssomethingidontalwaystellingmykidtryingtoinstillinthemthatyouremotionsareneverwrong
anditsjustlikethemovieinsideout
youneedtofeelyouremotions
youneedtofeelallofyouremotions
itswhatyouchoosetodoafteracknowlegingthosefeelings
thatswhatsimportantisTXTtheonlykippgroupthatsreallygivingmetheseragevibesabsolutelynotiwouldsaythatyourecontemporiesstraighkidstheyalsojustilistentothemalotatwork
ilistentostraikidsalotatwork
justbecauseevenwhatidontknowtherearelyrics
itjustfeelspowerful
anditfeelslikeicangoandkicksomeasstoday
andthenmynewfavoriteruckygroupjustbealsohasthisrockandrollfeelingandinawayitkindofremindsmeofBTSbackwhentheydid
NO
andeventhoughthatsongwasstillreallyhppoppythemessageiswhatscomingthroughinthisfourthgenenboygroupkpopmusic
wheretheyreusinganemaosoundorarocksound
butitsthesamemessageofquestion
everythingdontlettheworldsquashyousoiwouldsaythatthisisjustthekindofmusic
thateveryoneneedsatthispointtime
andwegotluckythattxtgaveittouswhentheydid
butasthepandemiccontinuestodragonwhoknowswhatthenextphaseofmusicisgoingtobelikeandimcurious
whatdoyouguysthinkwillbethenextkindofmusic
umdoyoualsofeelthesamewaythatidowhereyourefeelingangryoryourefeelingtiredorareyouinadifferentplaceinthepandemic
andifsocanyoupleasetellmehowyougottherebecauseiwouldreallyappreciatethatyoucansendallofthesethoughtsandideastounkpopularopinionspodatgmail
dotcom
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